Extra Sauce

Today I talk to lolicon extrodinaire, LoliSauce about MB, the players and the controversy encircling guard crushing in Actress Again, that means no more tutrtling. OH NOES!























A typical loli. He collects them.





Tim oniisan says:
yo
Tim oniisan says:
man, sorry bout that
Tim oniisan says:
my comp just crashed
Tokaro says:
oh it's ok
Tokaro says:
but yeah, so what's new in the MB scene? Is Actress Again on everyone's minds?
Tim oniisan says:
yeah, we've been pretty worried about how the introduction of the guard guage and guard breaking will affect the game
Tim oniisan says:
but the inclusion of the different moon styles and new characters have us pretty hyped
Tokaro says:
yeah, a buddy of mine is worried that the moon styles will really change the style of the game
Tokaro says:
turn it into 3s with SA's or like IAMP
Tim oniisan says:
well, from what we've gleaned from the scant info about the location test they did, the styles seem heavily different
Tim oniisan says:
and one of them seems pretty impractical for anyone but beginners
Tokaro says:
like....EO ism?
Tim oniisan says:
EO?
Tim oniisan says:
sorry, I'm blanking on that
Tokaro says:
Capcom vs SNK 2
Tokaro says:
Easy Operation ISM is an ISM that allows one button supers and junk like that
Tokaro says:
but I hate CvS2, so back to MB
Tim oniisan says:
ah
Tim oniisan says:
yeah
Tokaro says:
but it's essentially a scrub mode?
Tokaro says:
this Moon Style
Tim oniisan says:
well, I don't know about one button supers
Tim oniisan says:
but it does auto heat and some other shit
Tim oniisan says:
basically scrub mode, yeah
Tim oniisan says:
that's the waxing moon style
Tim oniisan says:
crescent moon is basically how the game plays now, and full moon is huuugely different
Tim oniisan says:
from the sounds of it
Tim oniisan says:
you can charge up super bar and you can no longer reverse beat in combos
Tim oniisan says:
and the attacks are generally supposed to be longer range and stronger, I guess
Tim oniisan says:
some of the info is kind of confusing, since we don't have a solid translation on it all
Tim oniisan says:
but it seems pretty interesting so far
Tokaro says:
hmm hmm, I think these styles may open up the MB scene, bring in some other players. What say you?
Tim oniisan says:
I certainly hope so
Tim oniisan says:
MB hasn't really gotten the sudden jump in scene like Arcana did, for example, but we've been steadily growing up to something that people are finally taking notice of
Tim oniisan says:
and with this new addition and the opening on potentially new ways to play, hopefully it'll attract a lot of interest
Tokaro says:
mhmm mhmm
Tokaro says:
well how about the players, what kind of players does MB attract?
Tim oniisan says:
hmm, that's kind of tough to answer
Tim oniisan says:
we've had people jump ship from other similar fighters out there such as GG or Arcana, but we also attract a lot of anime fans and such since the game is tied in with Tsukihime
Tim oniisan says:
and the players are kind of different depending on what coast you're on, as well
Tokaro says:
so eroge game otaku haha
Tim oniisan says:
haha
Tokaro says:
yeah I hear that
Tim oniisan says:
some of em, yeah
Tokaro says:
haha
Tim oniisan says:
I'm more familiar with the west coast crew
Tim oniisan says:
since I'm over here in vegas
Tokaro says:
like Arlieth and those folks?
Tim oniisan says:
yup
Tim oniisan says:
but I got to meet a decent amount of east coasters during last Evo
Tim oniisan says:
since I was one of the guy's housing people for the event
Tim oniisan says:
*guys
Tokaro says:
that's cool
Tim oniisan says:
yeah, it was fun. I'd like to go out for one of the bigger east coast tourneys one day
Tim oniisan says:
but being a year round college student doesn't allow for many breaks that work into that
Tim oniisan says:
haha
Tokaro says:
that's what the lottery is for.
Tim oniisan says:
pssh, I wish
Tokaro says:
hahaha
Tokaro says:
So how about your tourney experiences?
Tokaro says:
who have you played, what have you learned, etc.
Tim oniisan says:
My tourney experiences are somewhat limited due to not having the easiest access to any of the major ones
Tim oniisan says:
cept Evo, I guess
Tim oniisan says:
the vegas scene is pretty nonexistant
Tim oniisan says:
but, for the ones I have gone to, it's been real fun
Tim oniisan says:
I always end up improving my game a lot just over the couple days around them
Tim oniisan says:
I've played most of the best from SoCal, NorCal, and Arizona
Tim oniisan says:
and a few from East Coast
Tim oniisan says:
You should see Arly when he gets into tourney mode
Tim oniisan says:
haha
Tim oniisan says:
fuckin gets all 3s parry happy
Tim oniisan says:
shielding everything
Tokaro says:
lol man, don't judge 3s based on his parry madness XD
Tim oniisan says:
haha
Tokaro says:
I've seen him shield Aoko's C beam or whatever
Tim oniisan says:
yeah, lol
Tim oniisan says:
he can prolly shield Warc's EX blood rings
Tim oniisan says:
that shit is...a lot of hits
Tokaro says:
I tried once
Tokaro says:
I had the first 7 hits and then crapped out
Tim oniisan says:
nice
Tokaro says:
I also dashed through it with Kouma's command dash
Tokaro says:
but Warakia doesn't have any hit boxes during that crap
Tim oniisan says:
lol
Tokaro says:
so I couldn't do squat
Tim oniisan says:
ah
Tim oniisan says:
yeah
Tim oniisan says:
sucks
Tim oniisan says:
usually you can still throw though
Tim oniisan says:
with that kind of thing
Tokaro says:
my buddy is a fierce Warakia player though
Tim oniisan says:
like Aoko's arc drive
Tokaro says:
I play MB like 3s, that's my prob
Tim oniisan says:
can't hit her out of it, but you can throw her out of it
Tokaro says:
hahaha yeah
Tim oniisan says:
ah
Tim oniisan says:
yeah
Tim oniisan says:
definitely don't play the same
Tim oniisan says:
I can play MB decently, but my 3s skills are SHAMEFUL
Tim oniisan says:
lol
Tokaro says:
yeah man, no relation
Tim oniisan says:
anyway, did my response for the final round question ever get through?
Tokaro says:
3s is a very grounded game
Tokaro says:
nope
Tim oniisan says:
yeah, definitely
Tokaro says:
sure didn't
Tim oniisan says:
ah
Tim oniisan says:
well
Tim oniisan says:
I guess brandino was talking mad shit and waving around his $100 MM like he had it in the bag
Tim oniisan says:
but Choco somehow steps up to his ultimate best whenever a MM is concerned
Tim oniisan says:
and he took that shit with a strong victory
Tim oniisan says:
and as for the results of the tourney itself
Tim oniisan says:
everyone who was in the top 8 are all mad good, so they definitely deserve it
Tim oniisan says:
Jiyuna needs to lay of the drinks when he plays though, lol
Tim oniisan says:
he might've been able to pull first or second if he wasn't drunk
Tim oniisan says:
even though I've heard he plays just as well when drunk
Tim oniisan says:
are people at SRK taking more notice with the big money being thrown around these past few tourneys?
Tokaro says:
I'm not sure
Tokaro says:
sometimes it seems like it but then these matches just get one upped
Tim oniisan says:
mm, yeah
Tim oniisan says:
well, our eventual goal is to get big enough that we can get enough notice to catch a spot in Evo 08 or 09
Tokaro says:
yeah that'll be tough
Tokaro says:
but here's hoping
Tim oniisan says:
and as of right now, with how much we've grown just in the past year, 09 doesn't really look out of the question
Tim oniisan says:
but we'll see
Tim oniisan says:
Actress Again could make or break it
Tokaro says:
yeah but it may go the way of Accent Core
Tokaro says:
one tourney then revert to the norm next year
Tokaro says:
but I think MB would be a great addition to Evo
Tim oniisan says:
shit, my messages are getting error'd out
Tokaro says:
now I'm wondering, what kind of advice could you give to up and comers in MB?
Tim oniisan says:
Evo08 we should pick up a lot of notice again, if we get a showing as big (and prolly bigger) than last year's. it's hard not to be noticed when you've got a non-official tourney with more players than one of the official ones
Tim oniisan says:
sorry, I tried saying that earlier, but it didn't get through
Tim oniisan says:
anyway, to up and comers
Tim oniisan says:
netplay netplay netplay
Tim oniisan says:
the current netplay is real good and when you take a look at some like Brandino, who's one of the best Ciel players in the US right now; the majority of his MB experience is purely netplay due to where he lives
Tim oniisan says:
so getting out there on that netplay is essential for getting in play against a lot of people outside of your area
Tim oniisan says:
other than that, keeping up on stuff at the meltybread.com forums is really helpful
Tim oniisan says:
basically the whole MB scene is on there, so getting advice is easy
Tokaro says:
well thank you man
Tokaro says:
thank you for your time
Tim oniisan says:
thanks for the interview
Tokaro says:
oh yeah, so what's with the name lolisauce?
Tim oniisan says:
hahaha
Tokaro says:
likem the lolis?
Tim oniisan says:
you betcha
Tim oniisan says:
straight criminal
Tim oniisan says:
lol
Tokaro says:
cover your tracks man
Tokaro says:
don't jizz on the face
Tokaro says:
hahahaha
Tim oniisan says:
haha
Tokaro says:
I can't believe I just said that
Tim oniisan says:
so what's the interview for, btw?
Tokaro says:
a blog
Tokaro says:
I do interviews with players and stuff
Tim oniisan says:
cool
Tim oniisan says:
can I catch a link?
Tokaro says:
I also do a crappy podcast
Tokaro says:
yeah I'll link you
Tim oniisan says:
I'll have to show it to one of my friends when you put up mine, lol
Tim oniisan says:
what all games do you interview for?
Tokaro says:
not like I'm the most notable person
Tokaro says:
mostly 3s but I interview for MvC2, GGXX, MB, HnK, alot of stuff
Tokaro says:
pretty much any and all fighting games
Tim oniisan says:
cool
Tokaro says:
as long as I can get in touch with the person



Tim oniisan says:
yeah
Tim oniisan says:
that's pretty dope
Tim oniisan says:
what got you wanting to interview me? Although I'm prominent in the community, I'm not exactly one of the top players. haha
Tokaro says:
I thought you would be a good person to interview because you AREN'T a mega player, I could get more of a human response from you than some pro.
Tim oniisan says:
mm
Tokaro says:
I think you have a real knowledge of the game as well as the scene
Tokaro says:
that's why
Tokaro says:
and I appreciate that you'd allow me to interview

My Dinner with Mopreme

Today's entry is my interview with 3s player Mopreme, we (more like he) talk about the thrill of battle and the competitive spirit. It's like Hajime no Ippo without the entertainment or boxing.


6:21 PM me: hey
6:22 PM shinmopreme: Hello.
me: Are you THE Mopreme? as in the guy who did all the link exibitions?
or did I add the wrong person?
6:23 PM shinmopreme: I think THE Mopreme is a hip hop artist, but I did make a link video.
6:24 PM me: I wanted to do an interview with you
about 3s and stuff
shinmopreme: 3s is fun.
6:25 PM me: well I guess I should fill you in, my name is Tokaro, I run a radio show and write a small FG blog
I interview players and the like and post the conversations
6:26 PM I was wondering if we could talk about some stuff, if you have the time.
shinmopreme: sure I guess.
Steal my secrets?!?
me: ok, great great.
shinmopreme: haha
me: Trying to! haha
6:27 PM so, you've released a series of videos and have competed in Texas Showdown tourneys before. To what do you owe this to? practice?
6:28 PM shinmopreme: oh are you doing the interview now?
me: uh, I guess
shinmopreme: oh
me: hahaha
shinmopreme: I was just doing some stuff online before I go watch Iron Man
me: sorry to shock you
shinmopreme: How much time do you need?
me: I saw it yesterday man, sick movie
not much
shinmopreme: hmm ok
me: maybe 10 minutes
shinmopreme: ok
6:29 PM me: just jot down some random crap about working at 3s
it'll pass for insight
lol
shinmopreme: I'm not sure what you mean with your question. I like 3rd strike and I like competition, so I enter tournaments.
me: like, how did you become good at the game?
shinmopreme: I only did the videos when I thought I had something to show.
me: I phrased that very oddly
sorry
6:30 PM shinmopreme: Not much new stuff to show, so I haven't made a video in a long time.
I play it a lot!
But to get good at a game, you have to play it seriously.
And you can't have an ego.
me: yeah yeah
that'll get in your way
I think respect is key
shinmopreme: There are two types of people who play games: Those who lose, and those who get beat.
me: to enjoy the experience
shinmopreme: People who lose always have a reason why they lost.
6:31 PM It was never because they were outplayed or whatever.
People who get beat on the other hand, want to know why they lost.
They can acknowledge that they were the weaker player.
And try to figure out what they other dude did that was better.
So don't worry if you lose
6:32 PM Always try to analyze what happened.
There is always a reason.
me: kind of a stepping stone
yeah analyze your loss so you can figure out what you can improve on
shinmopreme: I find SF fun for very similar reasons that chess is fun.
It's just fun on a faster more intense level.
6:33 PM And the nature of anything competitive is that there is always a winner and a loser.
Sometimes, you are going to be the loser.
So when you lose, try to make the best of it.
And personally, I find it more fun to lose.
Then you have a reason to keep playing and improve.
Beasting on scrubs it not very fun.
6:34 PM I had the most fun playing 3s in Japan.
I lose like 85% of the time.
6:35 PM me: haha well that's Japanese playing for you
shinmopreme: Anyways, playing games should be fun.
me: my cousin played in Japan a bit and got beasted by a bunch of players but the experience was amazing
shinmopreme: If you lose and you get all mad, you are taking it the wrong way.
me: I guess that's what it comes down to
6:36 PM shinmopreme: Losing should be more motivation to keep playing.
me: right
shooting for a goal
I mean, a game like 3s allows for such fun competition
6:37 PM a match on it's own tends to be fun
it's the enjoyment
shinmopreme: For me, competition is fun.
me: TheHy told me that
shinmopreme: 3s is an outlet for my competitive nature.
6:38 PM Only one person can be number 1.
Trying to be that one person is what's fun.
And since I am not close to being that person, 3s is fun.
6:39 PM me: yeah I can understand that
shinmopreme: And what's even more fun is trying to do it with a weak character.
me: I just want to play against different people
beasting with Q haha
or Sean
shinmopreme: Ibuki, Ryu or Akuma for me.
me: that's always fun
I main Ken
shinmopreme: I used to use Ken.
6:40 PM I used him in SBO last year.
And a few Evos ago.
me: I grew up playing him and I wanted to reach for the top
my dream was to become the best Ken in Canada
and that didn't go well
6:41 PM shinmopreme: I dream about not working and having millions of dollars.
me: but I still try and try and try because I love 3s and I love the feeling of playing against people
hahaha everyone has that dream
play 3s all day
6:42 PM shinmopreme: Need to do things in moderation, even 3s.
6:43 PM me: hahaha
yeah I know
I played 3s like a fiend back in the day and it got me nowhere
but now I branch out between games and other stuff
shinmopreme: Have to play people who are good and lose to them to get better.
me: and I think that's shaped me as a better player
6:44 PM yeah
shinmopreme: You don't learn anything by beating bad players.
You need to be forced to play better to improve.
6:45 PM me: except that you can stick with the same shit and beat scrubs :P
yeah you gotta step up yor game
6:46 PM to rise up to ones level you have to gain that experience
6:47 PM from loses and research
I thought I could become a good 3s player on research alone
shinmopreme: You can lose and lose and lose and watch all sorts of videos and still not get better.
me: but the thing is the game focuses on the human aspect
what a player can do not the character
6:48 PM shinmopreme: You have to take a step back and figure out why you are losing, and why what you are going isn't working.
What you are doing in the game is important, not what you saw in some video.
me: right right
6:50 PM shinmopreme: People tend to pick up tactics from videos
But they don't see the overall strategy.
6:51 PM me: hmm, like you mean what the other player saw and why they reacted like that
they just see the command
right?
6:52 PM they look at it from a movelist based POV
6:54 PM shinmopreme: For example, someone watches Yun and sees them do Genei Jin stuff.
They are impressed by the big damage combos,
but they ignore the times they block and just do minimal damage off of a command throw.
Maybe they picked up some big damage combos and some neat ways to land them, but they missed Yun's entire strategy.
6:55 PM Yun's strategy is restart genei jin as soon as possible.
That is his only goal
He is never trying to "land" a genei jin combo.
Just do enough at the end to get max bar back and end with a knock down.
Most people miss what it is yun is really doing when they watch Japanese videos.
The actual Yun strategy is boring.
6:56 PM No big combos, no tricks, just try to start genei jin 3 times in one round.
me: .....
this is why I don't play Yun
6:58 PM but I guess that's the goal
6:59 PM like Iron Man in MvC2 has one goal
and so on
Yun has to get his Genei Jin
7:00 PM So anything else you wanna say to the readers?
about strategy or competition?
shinmopreme: I don't know.
7:01 PM The Japanese aren't unbeatable.
Games are fun.
7:02 PM Ryu > Chun Li
Ibuki > Yun
7:03 PM me: well thank you for your insight Mopreme, sorry for keeping you
Ryu is strong
shinmopreme: Oh no problem.
me: It was fun talking to you
shinmopreme: Sorry if I did not answer your questions in any organized way.
me: nono that's fine, it's better that way
7:04 PM seems far more human
thank you for your time
enjoy Iron Man
I won't spoil anything
shinmopreme: OK.
me: but stay until the end of the credits
7:05 PM shinmopreme: OK.
me: that's all I'm saying
catch you later
shinmopreme: Later.